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I got out of bed one morning, and I couldn't bear weight on my right leg.

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And my knee hurt.

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This was in October of 2012.

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I told my wife you need to take me to the hospital so I can get my leg checked out.

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The radiologist asked me, have you been in an accident?

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And I said no, I've never had any injury to that knee.

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And he says, well, there's an artifact here.

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And he put the x-ray up on the light box and he pointed it out to me.

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Square a little structure in my knee, about the size of a fingernail with two wires attached

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to it.

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And I said, that's inside my leg?

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He said, yeah.

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But you don't have a scar.

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Just the visual of seeing the x-ray and finding out that it's under my skin without an explanation

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just ramped up my anxiety.

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And then I started having nightmares of something that actually happened to me decades ago.

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A replay of something that really happened.

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While I was in the Air Force, I went camping with a friend.

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And I'm just having fun.

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Until I see these lights flashing at odd intervals.

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And our UFO decides Walmart appears over us.

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From dead center of this thing, there came a milky white light.

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It took me inside the ship.

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And I'm screaming as loud as I can.

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And then I was out unconscious.

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I woke up to the flashing yellow, orange and white lights outside the canvas of the tent.

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And I'm thinking, what is this?

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What is that?

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Over the years, countless videos of strange lights and objects in the sky have been shared

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and reshared on social media.

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But in April of 2023, Pentagon officials surprised the public when they announced they were

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tracking over 650 reports of unidentified flying objects and lights, a drastic increase

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from recent years.

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Many of these reports, under official investigation, have been submitted by military personnel.

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While the sightings seem to defy explanation, some say the government has known more about

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these types of events for decades.

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During World War II, pilots began to see what they called the Foo Fighters, sometimes overseas

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in the Pacific and European theater.

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Foo Fighter was the name given to formations of orange lights, seen moving at high speeds.

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Things really picked up in and around Los Alamos and New Mexico, scientists, security

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personnel, civilians, military pilots.

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All kinds of people were seeing these unidentified flying objects.

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So at that point, the Air Force began to study it.

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There was ultimately Project Blue Book.

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The project had two main goals, to analyze UFO data and determine if these unidentified

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objects were threat to national security.

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So with the public and civilians reporting these things, there was a tremendous amount

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of activity.

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I am here to discuss so-called flying saucers.

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The Air Force's interest in this problem has been to identify anything in the air that

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may have the possibility of threat or menace to the United States.

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They amassed over 12,000 sightings, were unable to explain over 700 of them.

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This was becoming almost national pandemonium.

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There were articles in block letters this big about UFOs over the capital.

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Hundreds of reports of strange objects in the sky have been filed with the Air Force.

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They ultimately were not able to resolve this and wanted to get this off their plate.

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So the Air Force commissioned a study which reached the conclusion they wanted it to,

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that there's nothing of interest here for science or national security, even though the

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data contradicted that conclusion.

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And they walked away from it.

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The Air Force has been accused in time of hiding information about UFO.

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What do you have to say to that?

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Whose charges are absolutely untrue?

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To this day, people report a wide range of experiences, interactions.

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There are people that have reported wounds and illnesses from being in close proximity,

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which provides evidence that they were affected in some very real way as a result of some

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experience or encounter that they had.

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In 1977, I was a non-commissioned officer.

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I was a staff sergeant and stationed at Whiteman Air Force Base in Western Missouri.

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I was trained as an EMT and I worked with my friend Toby.

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You know, we socialized together on the weekends and he says, hey, I got an idea.

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Let's go camping.

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June 11, 1977, we exited the base and drove south.

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Toby said, well, there's supposed to be this piece of high ground.

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I had never been down there and it was amazing.

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We found it right away.

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We set up the camp and we're chatting back and forth.

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And then not only did it get quiet, it got still.

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And Toby has his head turned to the left, which would have been toward the west.

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He says, hey, Terry, were those lights there before?

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And I'm like, what lights?

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You know, we're in the middle of nowhere.

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There should be no lights.

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So I take a step back and on the horizon, there was a triangle made of very bright stars.

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They were all the same luminosity.

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The three stars rotated clockwise about 120 degrees.

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I think that what we were looking at was the triangular shaped craft and it was clear that

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it was coming in our direction.

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And this thing did a complete somersault and it did that twice.

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The exterior of the thing was about the size of a Walmart, several stories in height and

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there were windows and there was light pouring out of the windows.

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From dead center of this thing, there came a light about the same diameter as a softball

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and it was a milky white light and it landed square in the middle of our campfire.

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I don't know, but Toby and I both were inside this triangle thing.

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Now, I opened my eyes and I'm thinking, am I dreaming?

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What is this?

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What is this place?

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But it felt too real to be a dream.

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It wasn't a dream.

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I know it wasn't a dream.

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I had heard Toby screaming.

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I recognized his voice.

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But I can't move.

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I can't turn my head.

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I can't lift a finger.

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The only thing I can move is my eyes.

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I saw a line of six or seven beings.

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They wore tan colored flight suits with an orange patch on their shoulder.

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The guy in front was doing something on the panel and it took me down a long corridor

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to a white loom with a dome ceiling and there was a pretty standard looking x-ray table.

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There were two beings in the room and they were seven foot tall.

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I got this clinical, medical vibe from them.

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I didn't think they were going to kill me.

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I thought they might hurt me and they did.

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And then I was out in a deep sleep and I woke up to these orange and white flashing lights

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outside the canvas of the tent.

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So I wake up and I kind of don't have my wits about me.

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I turn to my friend Toby and I'm like, Toby, what's out there, man?

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He didn't really give me a coherent answer.

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And I was just absolutely terrified.

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It was 45 minutes before dawn and we watched this thing take off.

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And then we're both sitting in this tent still scared to death and Toby's like, we've got

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to get out of here.

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Let's make a run for the car.

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On our drive back from Devil's Den, we were both hurting and we were both severely dehydrated.

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This was right at dawn and the light from the morning sunshine was just killing my eyes.

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I was just terribly photophobic.

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When I got home, I didn't even know what to tell my wife.

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I wasn't even sure what had happened.

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Both of our wives took us to Whiteman Air Force Base Hospital because my wife is like, what

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happened to you?

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I said, I don't know.

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I woke up like this.

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When the doctors asked me what happened, I had no idea what to tell them either.

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It was difficult to make sense of it back then.

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I found out that I had what they call flash burns.

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It's a sunburn to the cornea of your eye.

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It's the same injury an arc welder would get if they didn't wear that hood with the

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smoke glass.

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It was very painful.

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I was treated.

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I spent several nights in the hospital.

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The doctors kept the lights off in the room and they put the salve in my eyes and came

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in with an injection for me for pain and to help me sleep.

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On the third night, OSI agent from the Office of Special Investigations came in my room and

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he walked over to my bed and he put his hand against the door and he got down right in

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my face and he said, son, I know and you know, you two knuckleheads stumbled onto something

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out there and I think you know what I mean.

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And I didn't know how to answer.

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I had no clue what had happened but he knew I saw a spaceship.

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When Terry is released from the hospital, he is given orders by his commanding officer

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to never discuss what happened that night at Devil's Den with anyone and to cease all

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contact with Toby.

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They cut orders for Toby to go to Japan and they cut those orders at light speed.

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I mean he was gone in a matter of weeks and I was thinking that if I could say goodbye

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to this guy, that would kind of give me some element of closure to this.

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I decided to swing by Toby's house to say goodbye to him and he comes out of the bedroom

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and his hair is all wonky and he's got on a dirty t-shirt and he looked up at me in

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his eyes or bloodshot and I could smell liquor on his breath.

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He said, it happened, didn't it Terry?

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And I said, yes, my brother, it really happened.

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You're not losing your mind.

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And he said, yeah, but why us?

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And I said, man, I don't have an expletive clue.

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That was.

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The last time I saw Toby, years later I found out Toby had passed away.

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And Terry isn't the only service member to conceal the fallout of a strange encounter.

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I think probably most of the people that report this are probably having sleep paralysis

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and things like that.

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But there's some cases where there's enough evidence that you really do wonder.

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In one extraordinary case, an individual named John Burroughs, who was an Air Force Security

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Officer in England, got very close to a bizarre unidentified flying object that was in the

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woods adjacent to his base.

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I was stationed at Ariapat Waters Woodbridge.

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The Rundle-Schwem Forest event took place outside the East Gate at Ariapat Woodbridge

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on the 26th of December, 1980, at 0300.

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About three o'clock in the morning I was riding with my supervisor and he saw some strange

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lights in the sky coming down into the forest.

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So a decision was made at that point to go ahead and have us go out and investigate to

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see if something crashed into the forest.

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So we went ahead and departed the base, went down into the forest on a service road, went

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as far as we could before we were blocked by a fence.

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Nothing felt right.

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It was like the forest itself had like a white light in it.

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Within the white light there seemed to be an oval type red ball with blue lights and

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a white light below it.

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And eventually whatever it was rose up into the trees and then shot off towards the coast.

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Our higher-ups, they weren't sure what happened.

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They told us to go out to the site and daylight to take a look around, which we did.

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We found some indentations in the ground and then some damage to the canopy above us in

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the forest.

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I wasn't consumed by this encounter in the forest.

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I was just like, well, something happened and I can't explain it and I'm going on in

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my life.

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My life went back to normal.

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I did my two years and left Woodbridge Air Force with it.

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The Air Force actually classified as records.

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We have a very arcane secrecy system and different services and organizations can classify information

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at such a high level that even the chairman of the intelligence committee is not privy

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to it.

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Sort of smoke and mirrors, pallets of secrets that we have that's hard to negotiate and

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impedes the flow of information.

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They can classify stuff based off of whatever happened in a military operation.

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They can deny access to anybody.

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That's why I'll never understand how my name got leaked out.

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But somehow some of the people involved, their names were exposed.

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That's when these different people started trying to track us down, including CNN.

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CNN was doing an investigation.

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Four years after the event occurred at RAF Bentwater's Woodbridge, CNN airs their special

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investigation.

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This is Woodbridge Airfield, an American Air Force base in Eastern England.

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Woodbridge Field was the site of something that witnesses say seemed to be taken from

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science fiction.

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What I can tell you is at the time the incident became public, it was done through a memo

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for the Ministry of Defense.

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The leak out in the Air Force can no longer deny, neither could the M.O.D. deny that something

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took place.

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That was the big story.

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Aliens were involved at Bentwater's Air Force base.

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I was approached by CNN, but I refused to do an interview because I was asked to sign

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certain non-disclosure stuff, you know, prior to departing the RAF Bentwater's.

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While others shared their shocking accounts with CNN on the condition of anonymity.

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So I think I saw a UFO, some kind of a spaceship from someplace out of this earth.

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Anything that happens inside the military, if the press gets involved, you have to report

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it to your chain of command, and they have to determine what you can and can't say in

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how it's handled.

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They knew that the investigation was going to be made public.

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I don't know what the Air Force felt as far as to how far this would go, but it clearly

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had gotten more traction than they were comfortable with.

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The government uses the news media to deliver information to the public on a daily basis.

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But certain information is deliberately withheld from news sources through non-disclosure agreements

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and the classification of sensitive data.

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With only partial view of the facts, it would be impossible to see the full picture of what's

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really going on.

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It's hard for people in the government to talk about this.

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There absolutely were cases where NDAs were signed and personnel refused to share information

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even with other cleared military personnel.

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Could people be literary a little bit about talking about stuff?

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Sure, but in reality, you have to follow the order of the military law or you would

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be in trouble no matter what the incident is.

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For decades, service members like John and Terry have been forced to keep their strange

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encounters secret.

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Before I saw the X-rays, it was 2012 and the incident was 40 years in my past.

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And I felt like I was finally coming to grips with it and I knew that I would never tell

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a soul.

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But those X-rays, when I saw the thing, it validated for me that these things had put

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their hands on me.

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I decided to write this book, Incident at Devil's Den.

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I decided to speak publicly about it.

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I was thinking that if enough people talk about it, it will have some sway on the government

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to come clean.

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When I started writing my book in 2017, I wanted to get a copy of my medical records

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from 1977.

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I did a written request and I was there six years and the packet of stuff I got was no

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bigger than that.

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My medical record should have been fatter than that.

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I like to say there were holes in this you could drive a truck through.

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So when I realized that I really couldn't process this on my own, I researched alien

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implants and I came up with their all sense.

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I'm a private investigator in the state of Texas.

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I was a former military police officer and I was in the CA.

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Now I look for physical and medical evidence of human-alien contact and I've been doing

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some research myself with implants.

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There's a lot we don't know about.

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Implants are foreign objects occasionally found underneath the skin of abductees while

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they largely remain a mystery.

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Some implant experts believe they are used to study the human body.

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I think that some of the implants are designed to monitor bodily functions but those rare

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people that have them, they don't know.

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They find them accidentally.

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Who is responsible for putting this thing in my leg?

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You know, I'm torn between saying that it was ET or saying that it was my government

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and I think it could have been either.

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My thought was it's a tracking device of some kind.

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The whole thing is very unsettling.

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I met Terry Lovelace and just had a really interesting conversation.

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I invited him down to Houston, Texas.

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We've been friends ever since.

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Hey, Terry.

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Darrell, how are you doing?

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Good to see you.

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Good to see you.

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Good to see you.

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Good night.

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Been a while, buddy.

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Yes, it has.

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Oh, man.

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I brought you films that I don't think you've seen before.

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These are 2017, November 2017 X-rays of my leg.

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The X-rays that show the implant.

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The problem I'm having if it were human tech, it would be easily discernible.

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You'd see it.

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You know, my question would be if this was in my body, how did it get there without

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there being a scar somewhere?

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I'm baffled by it.

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I contacted a surgeon and I sent him copies of my X-rays and we talked on the phone and

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I told him I said I'd like it removed.

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Well, I had planned to go in December and then in November, the thing vanished.

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November 16th, I think would have been the morning.

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I'm going from memory here.

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But I woke up and I had a lot of pain at the top of both of my legs and I had puncture

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wounds at the top of both of my legs.

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I mean, I had the feeling that they came and got their merchandise.

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It's unnerving to know that something is under your skin and then the next thing you know,

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it's gone.

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So what problems have you had getting X-rays, Terry?

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Well, you know, I knew that I didn't want to go back to the VA hospital.

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I think we both agree on that.

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I decided to go through a chiropractor and get the X-rays because I don't trust the

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VA.

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The government does keep medical records from military personnel.

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Terry's a good example.

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I don't know some of these other people personally, but I can tell you that it's a mess trying

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to find medical records and the help from the VA.

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The first issue that I had was when I got sick.

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When I came in the Air Force, I had clean bill of health.

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You couldn't have gotten in the Air Force with a heart murmur.

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That was one of disqualifying things.

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And then when I got out of active duty in 88, I had the exit physical showing that I had

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heart damage.

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Eventually, I started having some eye issues where my eyes were acting up and the doctor

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looked into my eyes.

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He said, have you been exposed to radiation?

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And I looked at him and I said, not that I'm aware of.

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He goes, well, you have radiation damage in your eyes.

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Right after the event, I had some issues where I didn't feel well.

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But it wasn't at the point where I correlated not feeling well to the incident.

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But after research I did, it became clear that what we encountered in Reynolds Shem

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caused my injuries.

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When John Burroughs requests his medical records through the Freedom of Information Act, he

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is denied.

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He is also unable to access the veterans benefits he's due.

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If your records are classified, they can't acknowledge other records that would have

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supported my claim.

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The Air Force decided to not acknowledge the fact that I was in from 79 to 82.

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My name is Cheryl Bennett and I was a staff assistant for Senator John McCain.

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I took care of constituents that were having problems with the VA.

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In August of 2013, I met John Burroughs from the U.S. Air Force.

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He came in to seek help for his DD 214s and his medical records.

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Everybody has one DD 214 when they get out.

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A DD 214 form is issued to service members who have been honorably discharged from active

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duty.

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They are used to verify military service to obtain benefits.

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John never got that when he left.

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And then when he finally decided he needed some medical attention, that's when this whole

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problem started.

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Oh no, you weren't in the military.

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I mean at an point he had to question himself, am I insane?

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Am I going crazy?

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You know, did this really happen or not happen?

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The Department of Justice got involved.

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Cheryl told me it brought in somebody with a high clearance to review my stuff who couldn't

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even get access to my records.

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And the fact is they couldn't verify anything other than I was in at the time I said it happened.

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All my stuff was still classified.

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I mean when your records are classified, you're pretty much SOL because they will not release

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them to you.

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I mean I even had a letter sent back to me from one of the attendants from the Department

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of Justice saying that I don't care, you can't throw John McCain's name out there, it's not

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going to get you anywhere.

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That pissed me off.

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Congress, the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, all

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the higher liaisons that I was working with, they were covering up his records, all of

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them.

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But for some service members and officials, the central issue isn't government manipulation.

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They believe the real problem is a lack of intelligence.

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I went to school for mechanical and aerospace engineering.

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And shortly after that I joined the Navy, ended up flying the F-18 Super Hornet off the east

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coast of Virginia Beach for a number of years.

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So in 2014, as we were flying around, we would have these objects brought on our radar.

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We'd have all our other sensors on it.

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And all those sensors actually get plumbed into our helmet.

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So as we look out into the sky outside of our cockpit, it's like an augmented reality.

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There's only supposed to be F-18s out there.

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So we'd go out there and see someone that didn't belong that immediately stuck out.

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But okay, that could happen with the commercial air traffic.

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But what's unique about these objects is that they weren't behaving like aircraft.

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They were stationary.

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They were at very high or very low speeds.

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And they were out there all day.

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So who were they?

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In recent years, the term UFO, unidentified flying object, has been replaced with the

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term UAP, unidentified aerial phenomena.

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Our culture has had UFO on our minds for quite some time.

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As soon as you say UFO, people immediately think alien is coming from another place.

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So the term has a lot of baggage.

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And we needed to get away from that and find something that was more neutral, more objective.

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Unidentified aerial phenomena acknowledges they may not even be objects.

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It could be plasma.

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It could be an atmospheric phenomenon.

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Over the course of time, as we observed these objects, the only natural conclusion we'd

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come to was this was some super top secret program that we were just not aware of.

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Is this a foreign adversary?

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Is this Russia or China?

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Have they developed a breakthrough that allows them to operate with impunity in restricted

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military airspace?

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If these looked like a Russian aircraft or Chinese aircraft, there would be much to do

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about this.

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The Air National Guard would probably be brought in.

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It would be a major issue.

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And Ryan would soon witness the most widely discussed UAP in recent history.

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In January of 2015, my squadron and I were operating off of Jacksonville, Florida, when

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we captured the gimbal video.

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So we see here, the aircraft taking this is at 25,000 feet above the ocean.

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And this object is basically at the same altitude.

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This looks pretty refined as far as the image goes.

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And then we see the rotation of the object.

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You see it just rotates like a gimbal.

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A gimbal is a mechanism that allows a device to rotate on an axis.

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In 2017, I saw the New York Times article that came out with the gimbal video.

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I was like, I was there on that film was taken.

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I recognized the voices of my buddies.

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But there's a new thing.

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It's rotated.

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On social media platforms, the gimbal video reinvigorates the debate surrounding UAP.

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After I had left the Pentagon formally, I became aware that we were having violations of restricted

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military airspace on an ongoing basis and had been already for a couple of years.

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And nobody was doing anything about it.

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Look at the pride.

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The objects that we were seeing didn't look or didn't behave like our threat nations or

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our adversaries.

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And so it seemed to get ignored in a way that otherwise wouldn't have been ignored.

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So is there an unofficial don't ask, don't tell policy when it comes to UAP?

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Or simply a lack of protocol?

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There were all kinds of organizations in the national security community that were touching

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parts of this problem.

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And none of them had a place to report this.

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And it was at that point that I really got involved, ultimately in a very public way.

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The appropriations committee was still of the mindset that this is wacky stuff, UFOs.

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They were not interested in supporting anything in this area, and they didn't have the information

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yet.

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So my suggestion was, ask for a report, a public report from the intelligence community on

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this issue.

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So that report came out in June of 2021.

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The preliminary report says accounts of UAP generally fall into five main categories.

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Foreign air clutter, natural atmospheric, foreign adversary systems, classified developmental

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programs, and other, the events without explanation.

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When the preliminary report went to Congress, it was very unique because it was the first

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time that we've ever really publicly acknowledged as a military that there is this uncertainty

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there.

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Someone like Ryan Graves is also an aerospace engineer in addition to being a pilot.

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So when somebody like that tells you that he's seeing one of these things out there

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and seeing them on a regular basis, you can take that to the bank.

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Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat.

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For too long, the stigma associated with UAPs has gotten in the way of good intelligence

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analysis.

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Pilots avoided reporting or laughed at when they did.

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What it's done is validated the statements of the operators that were at the very low

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level.

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And it just goes to show the amount of stigmatism that had to be overcome, right?

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We had to go through such extreme lengths to get that information from the operators

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to the decision makers.

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And these reports are part of that process.

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That's why there is an all-domain anomaly resolution office within the Department of

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Defense now.

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That office is now charged with receiving all information from all government organizations,

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analyzing it, reviewing all intelligence records back to World War II, creating a whistleblower

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process where people can come in regardless of any NDA they sign and talk openly about

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what they saw and what they knew.

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We didn't win the Cold War because we were better at protecting secrets.

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We won the Cold War because we were better at moving and sharing information.

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But I think they've been trying to avoid anything that would set the press off and anything

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that could be construed as proof or evidence that there are craft out there that might

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be ill in it.

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Though any effort to downplay the strange events happening in U.S. airspace became impossible

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in February of 2023.

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February of 2023, the United States shot down a number of objects, four total objects, over

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in the continental United States.

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There was coverage in any leading news organization in the United States.

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The Pentagon briefing reporters just before we came on the air saying they are now tracking

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a suspected Chinese spy balloon hovering over the northern U.S.

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For the third day in a row and the fourth time in just nine days, the United States

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has shot down an unidentified high-flying object.

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They were over Alaska, Canada's Yukon Territory, and Lake Huron.

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This after a Chinese spy balloon was shot down more than a week ago off the coast of

476
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,800
South Carolina.

477
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,400
Tonight the U.S. is still not able to call the three objects shot down by the United

478
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,920
States over the course of three days, anything but objects.

479
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720
This is completely unprecedented for a number of reasons.

480
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,720
We were told very clearly that there was a Chinese spy balloon that was offering her

481
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,480
vicinity and then in the very same note, the next three objects we shot down remain unidentified

482
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
and unattributed as well.

483
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Given the unanswered questions surrounding these events and the experiences of military

484
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:21,400
members like Terry, John, and Ryan, do we even have the capabilities to know what's

485
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
really in the skies?

486
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,400
We just simply don't have enough data.

487
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,560
And at the end of the day, the only way we're going to be able to figure it out is if we

488
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,720
put energy and put attention into it.

489
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,360
This recognizes the subject of UAPs as multifaceted and requires a careful data-driven approach.

490
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,600
Today we are not just debating the existence of UAPs, we are deliberating on the principles

491
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,200
that define our republic, which is a commitment to transparency and accountability.

492
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720
We can see that conversation moving into the public sector.

493
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,240
I think that's going to be key to moving the conversation forward in an open manner.

494
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,120
The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human

495
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,920
intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena.

496
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,680
Now the sheer number of reports, whistleblowers, and stories of unidentified anomalous phenomena

497
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,400
should raise real questions.

498
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,640
If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots

499
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,400
who piloted this craft?

500
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,440
As I've stated publicly already in my news nation interview, biologics came with some

501
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,440
of these recoveries.

502
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?

503
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,760
Non-human.

504
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,840
Many consider these claims as confirmation of alien life.

505
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,960
News spreads quickly on social media, where many share their shock and disbelief.

506
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,360
Anybody else watch that crazy UFO UAP hearing this morning?

507
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,680
Because holy sh- a huge step for us in the UFO community.

508
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,600
And then the government just pulls out aliens like surprise.

509
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,680
I would like to be the first to ask the aliens to abduct me.

510
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,720
But there are objects flying around here that they have no clue what's going on.

511
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,120
We can't afford to not know who's overflying our country.

512
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:17,160
It's much, much better, but there's still more progress that needs to be made.

513
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,400
What do you know now you didn't know before?

514
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Nothing.

515
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640
What are you going to know next month?

516
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Nothing.

517
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,760
What are you going to know six months from then?

518
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,760
Nothing.

519
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640
Oh, there'll be a little leak here and a little leak there.

520
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,120
If that's good enough for you, that's all you're going to get.

521
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Bring a congressional investigation and guess what you're going to get?

522
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000
That's a big cover story.

523
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,080
They've acknowledged that there's stuff they can't explain totally and they're investigating

524
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,000
it, but disclosure on what it is will never happen.

525
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,280
I was injured in line of duty in Reynolds, Fortress.

526
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,680
And eventually at the Air Force and the DOD and the VA agreed that I was injured in that

527
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,680
event.

528
00:34:53,680 --> 00:35:01,000
But they've never publicly or privately stated to Cheryl, myself or anybody else what exactly

529
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,840
happened to me, what injured me.

530
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,680
I got that letter saying that he will never get his medical records.

531
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,480
But John got the same thing saying, you know, you'll get your benefits, you'll get what

532
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,000
you need, but you'll never get your medical records ever.

533
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Who does that?

534
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Why?

535
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Why are they doing that?

536
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,360
They won't answer you.

537
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,240
So it's still, to me, a new phenomenon.

538
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,120
I think that we have some kind of alien technology.

539
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,440
We got something that's kept under lock and key and out of sight.

540
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,640
The only reason that I can think of that they couldn't tell us would be if it's a matter

541
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,640
of national defense.

542
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,640
And maybe it is, I don't know.

543
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,600
But I'd like to know.

544
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,960
While we may never know what is responsible for the unexplained lights and objects in

545
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,800
the sky, one thing is certain.

546
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:54,000
If answers ever do come to light, they could radically shift the course of history.

547
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,920
There are so many still unresolved questions around this topic.

548
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:05,200
Is it possible that we're encountering probes from a distant civilization?

549
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,640
I don't think we should be surprised if that proves to be the case.

550
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:16,640
So this is something that has the most profound possible implications.

551
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,640
And it's potentially very upsetting for many people.

552
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:27,040
And yet we have to be faithful to the data, regardless of where it goes.

553
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,040
That's what we need to do.